I think if Marvin Harrison continues to play like he has for another 5 years he can easily be talked about in the same breath as Jerry Rice. Of course, that's a big if. AND the Colts will need to win another championship or two to make it a fair comparison.
And I'm not saying that cocaine and hookers disqualifies Irvin from the Hall of Fame. (I'm just using them to idly provoke you.) I'm saying that without three rings he'd never have gotten in. The Hall of Fame committee weighs championships heavily in their assessment of players as Hall-worthy, and if I was fantasy drafting that era I'd take Andre Reed over Michael Irvin every single time.
Because of our own personal biases I'm likely underrating Irvin and you're likly overrating him, so he's probably somewhere inbetween.
Dunno if I'd put Harrison in the same league as Rice. He's the best playing right now, but no one is Jerry Rice, even when you discount that he played at a high level till he was like 80. Yeah, I know you're getting my goat. But excuses to talk football are fun. Would Irvin had gone to the hall with no rings? I have no clue. I know that Lance Alworth, Charlie Joiner and Paul Warfield all had similar stats to Irvin and went. Andre Reed will go in with no rings, and his stats, while better than Irvin's, aren't phenomenanly better, especially when you consider Reed played six years longer. Pure stat wise Irvin is in the top 10 in nearly every category, and only trails Rice when you get into playoff records. You are correct though we're both overrating and underrating him. As a triplet, he's like a minor deity to me, so my views are always going to be colored. I'm just happy he's in the Hall of Fame.
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And I'm not saying that cocaine and hookers disqualifies Irvin from the Hall of Fame. (I'm just using them to idly provoke you.) I'm saying that without three rings he'd never have gotten in. The Hall of Fame committee weighs championships heavily in their assessment of players as Hall-worthy, and if I was fantasy drafting that era I'd take Andre Reed over Michael Irvin every single time.
Because of our own personal biases I'm likely underrating Irvin and you're likly overrating him, so he's probably somewhere inbetween.
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Yeah, I know you're getting my goat. But excuses to talk football are fun.
Would Irvin had gone to the hall with no rings? I have no clue. I know that Lance Alworth, Charlie Joiner and Paul Warfield all had similar stats to Irvin and went. Andre Reed will go in with no rings, and his stats, while better than Irvin's, aren't phenomenanly better, especially when you consider Reed played six years longer. Pure stat wise Irvin is in the top 10 in nearly every category, and only trails Rice when you get into playoff records.
You are correct though we're both overrating and underrating him. As a triplet, he's like a minor deity to me, so my views are always going to be colored. I'm just happy he's in the Hall of Fame.